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The_Assimilator



Joined: 05 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:51 am    Post subject: Red Gate, you have destroyed your reputation Reply with quote

Lutz Roeder, a one-man show, released a high-quality tool that he maintained for many years. As soon as he turned it over to your "awesome developers", quality took a dive, and now you have the gall to charge us money for this tool because it allegedly takes a lot to maintain? You REALLY expect anyone to believe this crap?

Two words, Red Gate: GET FUCKED. I sincerely hope you go out of business very quickly because of this money-grabbing decision - from now on I will be telling every developer I know to avoid your products like the plague, and other developers all over the world will do the same.

Your greed will destroy you, and it'll be your own damn fault.
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Flamingo



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red Gate: GET F***ED - isnt that four words Wink
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JAssange



Joined: 02 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Flamingo wrote:
Red Gate: GET F***ED - isnt that four words Wink

No, English grammatical standards dictate that his bi-worded sub-phrase began after the colon.
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JDelekto



Joined: 05 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Red Gate, you have destroyed your reputation Reply with quote

The_Assimilator wrote:
Lutz Roeder, a one-man show, released a high-quality tool that he maintained for many years. As soon as he turned it over to your "awesome developers", quality took a dive, and now you have the gall to charge us money for this tool because it allegedly takes a lot to maintain? You REALLY expect anyone to believe this crap?


Well, as I see it, 'quality' of the product did not take a dive at all --in fact, it increase in quality when Red-Gate took it over, for the simple reason that the .NET languages have changed in form.

I can assure you that an older version of Lutz's Reflector would make more "garbledy-gook" out of the C# 3.0 language specification where the compiler used so much "syntactic sugar" it would make its teeth rot.

I'm actually thankful that someone was able to take over the development of reflector so that one could make better sense of reading the code (though still not perfected) much better as the language itself generated new code.

It does take a lot to maintain, sir, because the developers have to understand the nuances of the language, the compiled output and how to translate it back to something readable. In addition, they've been augmenting the product to integrate with Visual Studio and debugging which, by the way, has been quite helpful with 3rd party buggy components.

I happen to appreciate their products.

Cheers.
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kenro



Joined: 07 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Red Gate, you have destroyed your reputation Reply with quote

JDelekto wrote:

Well, as I see it, 'quality' of the product did not take a dive at all --in fact, it increase in quality when Red-Gate took it over, for the simple reason that the .NET languages have changed in form.

I can assure you that an older version of Lutz's Reflector would make more "garbledy-gook" out of the C# 3.0 language specification where the compiler used so much "syntactic sugar" it would make its teeth rot.


Upgrading to a new version to stay up to date with the new languages in .Net platform doesn't make it a good quality. That is why it is called an upgrade!

JDelekto wrote:

I'm actually thankful that someone was able to take over the development of reflector so that one could make better sense of reading the code (though still not perfected) much better as the language itself generated new code.


Oh I was also thankful... until now. THEY BETTER MAKE THIS PERFECT! Evil or Very Mad If not, it makes no difference at all than what it was before when it was free... still not perfect... but the thought of the .Net framework constantly upgrading... GOOD LUCK!

JDelekto wrote:

I happen to appreciate their products.


I happen to appreciate it too... but not anymore. What I can see? Is a pitiful move to save the company revenues. They should fire their business executives.
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DotNetDude



Joined: 08 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm terribly disappointed to see red gate make the decision to hold this software ransom. I understand they pay developers to maintain and add features. But to force anyone who wants to continue using old versions of the software to pay for it is equivalent to hold it ransom. Especially when they indicated it would continue to be free. I personally refuse to do business with any company using tactics like this and will advise my fortune 100 company to do the same. Goodbye red gate. I refuse to negotiate with software terrorists.
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